NC House Rep. Jonathan Jordan has signed on as a co-sponsor to a House Joint Resolution that says the state of North Carolina can establish a state religion if it wants to, never mind the U.S. Constitution nor the rulings of numerous courts.
Because -- hey! -- there's nothing more pressing in state business than grandstanding for your right-wing base.
Friday, June 20, 2014
Jonathan Jordan Signs on to New Bill to Establish a State Religion
Posted by J.W. Williamson at 6/20/2014 12:09:00 PM
Labels: Jonathan Jordan, religion and politics
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Are they rehashing this again? Date says 2013, but perhaps this never went away last year and they're now going to try get this passed this year?
Why is NCGOP so willing to go against the grain of what it means to be American? What on earth is the NCGOP hoping to gain by trashing education, the environment and the US Constitution?
This is yet another reason to vote for Sue Counts.
Good Lord JW, what a STRETCH! Did you bother to actually read the text of the bill which you are misrepresenting here?
From Nathan Miller and David Blust to Mitt Romney, all Republicans want a theocracy. That's why they are so quick to accuse Muslims of wanting to establish Sharia law. They see in others their own goals.
Am I the only one sick to teeth of footing the legal bills to defend these illegal pieces of legislation?
To No Longer a Democrat: I read the bill. JW didn't stretch. It "makes the case" that the feds can't tell the states what to do in regard to establishing religion or how religion fits in schools. That is one step in the direction of saying North Carolina has the right to establish religion and do whatever it wants to do about religion in the schools.
No Longer, I have read it and I am sure that Jerry did, too. It is a bogus, grandstanding piece of dreck that will cost the state thousands to defend and the state will lose.
Come on people, it says absolutely nothing about a state religion. Talk about something important. I believe JW is getting a little dramatic.
True that....it says nothing about a state religion. It only says that the Fed can't tell a state NOT to establish a state religion.
Which.....sounds like a prelude to beginning to pass bills allowing local and state government to go back to inserting CERTAIN religions into school textbooks and public meetings. Come on, folks, this bill is transparent. We all know what it's aiming for.
Let's not pretend we don't all know that it's a set-up for a bunch of skirmishes that will cost towns and counties and the state many thousands of taxpayer dollars defending unconstitutional actions on the state and local level.
"Come on people, it says absolutely nothing about a state religion."
Then what is the purpose of this bill? What pressing issue does it address? What good is it?
Dem 12: To allow governments the right and opportunity to open a meeting in prayer. Prayer would make a big difference in this town we call home.
It would be nice for town governments, county governments, school boards to have the right to open a meeting with prayer. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is my no means establishing a state religion. A local church even had a problem with this (High Country UCC) resolution and I think that is a crying shame of course they are only a step above the Unitarian church.
"...and I think that is a crying shame of course they are only a step above the Unitarian church."
And therein lies the problem. You yourself are passing judgment on a particular type of church. What if some board members went to the Unitarian church and wanted to open a meeting with their own kind of prayer? Or what if they were Jewish or Buddhist... or Satanist??
Prayers have no place at a civic, public, government meeting. All that needs to be said is "The meeting will now come to order." Individual board members are free to pray as much as they want before the meeting starts. Why does it have to be such a big show done in front of everyone in the meeting? Prayer should be a private matter.
Thank goodness the producers of Horn in the West continue to lead a prayer during their opening night festivities.
Last time I checked, Horn in the West wasn't a governmental organization conducting the people's business.
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