tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post6855214848275266005..comments2024-03-22T13:06:27.366-05:00Comments on WataugaWatch: Blue Cross of N.C.: Pigs at the TroughJ.W. Williamsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17694324792688711136noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-30983154797331612902010-02-21T15:34:41.000-05:002010-02-21T15:34:41.000-05:00Good post, RV ! I heartily concur! :)Good post, RV ! I heartily concur! :)BikerBardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-33037885799901255102010-02-21T06:27:20.000-05:002010-02-21T06:27:20.000-05:00bridle;
the code requirements are for anything lar...bridle;<br />the code requirements are for anything larger than twelve foot by twelve foot that has power and/or plumbing. then you need a permit and inspectors come with any building permit.craig dudleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-88621920873445868452010-02-21T05:49:40.000-05:002010-02-21T05:49:40.000-05:00Actually, Bridle first mentioned the placement of ...Actually, Bridle first mentioned the placement of outhouses over creeks. And, you are right in saying that some people piped untreated sewage into creeks. It may still be happening. When our actions jeopardize the health and safety of other people, we need for the government regulatory authorities to step in. That is why we need government. If we want to live as a civilized society, then we must agree to having governmental agencies that will monitor the slackers. If we want to live in a third world country, then by all means tear the government apart and let every man be for himself. Some people will not do the right thing unless it is required by law. Sad but true. RVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-81263309544018987032010-02-21T01:47:41.000-05:002010-02-21T01:47:41.000-05:00What in the world are you talking about Bikerbard?...What in the world are you talking about Bikerbard? RV was the one who brought up outhouses, not me. I just said that if I wanted to use an outhouse then so be it. Outhouses were not typically built over creeks anyway - never heard of that until RV said something about it. I could just as easily pipe sewage from a septic tank into creeks as I could an outhouse. In fact, I bet this occurs more than you think. Talk about health problems, do you remember when the elitest town of Blowing Rock dumped chemicals into Middle Fork of the New River not once, but twice in a 6 month period. Fish were killed from the Blowing Rock water plant all the way to Watauga River. They were fined less than 5000 dollars. I have heard of people fishing illegally being fined more than that!!!!!! The threat is not from me, but from folks and entitites already doing it. Boggeydoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-77536838144573211892010-02-21T00:29:12.000-05:002010-02-21T00:29:12.000-05:00BD only cares about BD. So what if he craps in a c...BD only cares about BD. So what if he craps in a creek on his property and the creek runs onto someone else's property creating sanitation and health problems.? Not HIS problem.BikerBardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-25268419387719274792010-02-20T10:30:22.000-05:002010-02-20T10:30:22.000-05:00Some construction was sturdier and some was inferi...Some construction was sturdier and some was inferior. You don't see the inferior houses now because they burned down or rotted by now.<br />And I don't think you need an inspection if you plan to create a shelter that doesn't involve other subcontractors or the municipal infrastructure. (Is that correct?)But if you want to hook up to the electric grid, or hire someone to plumb your house, or take advantage of the benefits of our infrastructure and modern civilization, you must conform to a code.<br />It is a fallacy that there ever was a time when people were more free to live as they please. There have always been rules and regulations, even in tribal societies. Look at some of the anachronistic laws still on the books in some places.bridlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-51584118837580565852010-02-20T06:54:21.000-05:002010-02-20T06:54:21.000-05:00But are they over a creek? That I care about. Y...But are they over a creek? That I care about. You said "construction in the old days was much sturdier". That is what we are saying. People back then built their home for themselves to live in throughout their lives. Nowadays, builders throw up houses to make a profit. Most people don't build their own houses anymore. RVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-20732836883877727562010-02-20T00:37:08.000-05:002010-02-20T00:37:08.000-05:00Bridle,
Yes, you are correct in the outhouse asse...Bridle,<br /><br />Yes, you are correct in the outhouse assessment. But if I wanted to build and use an outhouse then what difference does it make? Most of those old houses that you think tumbled into ruin did so because no one was living in them. Possibly they were not comfortable enough as you pointed out, but construction in the old days was much sturdier and more finely detailed than it is today. If I cannot sell my home because it was built without an inspector, then why would you care? It is my problem. <br /><br />As a note of interest, near Mountain City there are still a couple of families who use outhouses if you can believe that.Boggeydoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-52282602895173121852010-02-19T21:24:14.000-05:002010-02-19T21:24:14.000-05:00Boggydosh, Are you serious? First of all, many of...Boggydosh, Are you serious? First of all, many of the houses built before building codes have already tumbled into ruin or burned down because of faulty wiring. Secondly, all the ones that are still standing require extensive remodeling and refitting to make them anywhere near what most people consider comfortable. Just because the old folks were OK with an outhouse over the creek doesn't mean we can tolerate it nowadays. bridlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-54190377009665372162010-02-19T10:25:03.000-05:002010-02-19T10:25:03.000-05:00Craig: I have no doubt about the quality of your w...Craig: I have no doubt about the quality of your work. But just have someone trip down those stairs, find out there was no inspection, and you could lose YOUR house. We are in a "sue-me" era, and inspectors are there to protect the builder as well as the buyer.<br /><br />And you, BD, or Pisher, perhaps. You will be stuck with construction you cannot insure nor sell. Enjoy, and Good luck! PS: The offer of free stone still stands. :-DBikerBardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-70280817143819458062010-02-19T10:18:57.000-05:002010-02-19T10:18:57.000-05:00Good points, Craig. I hope the stupid, egotistic ...Good points, Craig. I hope the stupid, egotistic inspectors don't keep their jobs long!RVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-26351925108646769102010-02-19T10:08:11.000-05:002010-02-19T10:08:11.000-05:00boogey;
the steps aren't at my house. i built ...boogey;<br />the steps aren't at my house. i built them for another.<br />on the inspections/permit subject i come down on both sides. i have seen what happens without codes/standards. greedy and incompentent contractors will do their worst. i have also seen good hardworking builders run into the ground with stupid, egotistic inspectors. its a beast.<br />i have, in wva, seen handicap ramps built at steep angles requiring a hearty helping push for those in the chair and septic tank leach lines running up hill.<br />i have seen builders here nickled and dimed into exhaustion. there is no one size fits all solution to this one.craig dudleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-10981906412982663692010-02-19T09:58:35.000-05:002010-02-19T09:58:35.000-05:00Bikerbard,
Do not make fun of me or call me sensi...Bikerbard,<br /><br />Do not make fun of me or call me sensitive. To RV and Bridle - houses built in Watauga County before there were building inspectors don't seem to have any problems with falling in or anything else. You might feel greatful with an inspector telling you how to build your home, but I don't. There was never a problem in the first place, and now you have manufactured a problem that adds government to your lives. How is that different than the corporate/military America that we so hate? Also, don't you think Criag Dudley should have his fine steps inspected by an inspector to ensure they are built correctly?Boggeydoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-28317370996323470442010-02-18T16:51:27.000-05:002010-02-18T16:51:27.000-05:00Well, Mr. Boggey: If YOU promise you will build yo...Well, Mr. Boggey: If YOU promise you will build your own house, by yourself, with NO inspections, I'LL GIVE YOU THE STONE! :-D :-D As you so aptly put it, you will hurt yourself, anyway!<br /><br />Now, no tears. I know you are such a sensitive soul. :'(BikerBardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-27470676103121089662010-02-18T10:30:12.000-05:002010-02-18T10:30:12.000-05:00I built my own home in 1986. It annoyed me greatly...I built my own home in 1986. It annoyed me greatly when the building inspector would not pass the structure until the rafters were extended and more insulation was added to the ceiling. I came up with the money and have been grateful ever since that the insulation is there. It also protects future buyers and makes my house a better investment.bridlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-60070068418345358822010-02-18T07:30:01.000-05:002010-02-18T07:30:01.000-05:00biker;
the bailout didn't do anything other th...biker;<br />the bailout didn't do anything other than delay the depression. there will be no measures taken to prevent more of the same as the bankers are the true ones in charge. otherwise how could they have been given our future income to paper over their crimes?craig dudleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-60870860059907645222010-02-18T07:27:25.000-05:002010-02-18T07:27:25.000-05:00boggey;
glad you enjoy my rock pile. i do cut them...boggey;<br />glad you enjoy my rock pile. i do cut them as well as was the case in this set of stairs. sometimes its just trimming corners. it took me and a helper a bit more than a week to do the stairs.<br />you might be careful as i agree with the rest of your statements as well.<br />part of why i lived in wva was because in my area there were no codes or inspectors but that had troubles as well; you should have seen some of the things people paid for and lived in. it was criminal which is why there are codes and inspectors but then the federalies get all puffed up and self important leading to some of the crap builders here have to deal with.<br />corporate/military america does indeed do everything they can to own us and continue to do so with the willing aquiencience of "my fellow americans" in their silence and belief of the crap fed to them every evening on the "news".<br />i do all i can to be as self sufficient as possible.<br />my area has rattlesnakes, copperheads, bears, mountain lions, bobcats and peckerwoods all looking for trouble.<br />keeps one aware and alive.<br />and one more word on illegeal immigrants; we are all descended from such ancestors and if you were to ask any native american/indian they would agree. <br />when i lived in oregon there were bumper stickers saying "don't californicate oregon".<br />the point was after they had reached paradise they didn't want any more refugees to crowd them.craig dudleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-22243968342420991412010-02-18T05:49:23.000-05:002010-02-18T05:49:23.000-05:00Boggeydosh, would you feel safe buying a house wit...Boggeydosh, would you feel safe buying a house without having it inspected first? Maybe you can build a fine house, but there are builders who do shoddy workmanship. This is why we need laws. Think about the buildings in China that toppled in the earthquake, including a school in which many children died. They later found out that those buildings had not been built properly to start with. Your smug indignation is wearing thin.RVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-18801341286008124582010-02-17T23:28:53.000-05:002010-02-17T23:28:53.000-05:00Boy, Mr. Bard, you seem quite taken with yourself....Boy, Mr. Bard, you seem quite taken with yourself. I am not sorry nor is my arse fine thank you. I really don't like to engage in that type of talk. As for the Fred Flinstone Act, I can do just fine without corporate America and all its trappings telling me how to build my house. They didn't need anyone telling them how to build houses 200 years ago, and they survived. Craig Dudley looks like he did a fine job wiht his steps. Do you think he needs an inspectior to come over to his house and have him build those steps to the satisfaction of the state? I hope you don't think that. A fool will hurt himself anyway, so why bother with the freedom and money robbing petty rules?Boggeydoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-58620625969496574612010-02-17T20:54:36.000-05:002010-02-17T20:54:36.000-05:00Unfortunately, the bank bailout was an evil necess...Unfortunately, the bank bailout was an evil necessity to counteract an impending depression. The real question is what measures will we take to prevent a recurrance.<br /><br />The law, if one exists, to prevent you from building your own house out of stone, is to protect your sorry ass from premature burial due to incompetence. I believe it is called, the "Fred Flintstone Act."BikerBardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-74973933772650708052010-02-17T17:01:52.000-05:002010-02-17T17:01:52.000-05:00Excellant rock masonry sir! I have always wanted ...Excellant rock masonry sir! I have always wanted to learn stone masonry, however the time needed to undertake such an endeavor alludes me. How long did it take you to build those steps? It appears the stones were cut - I suppose you cut the stone also. This is an excellant segway into what you were talking about with corporate/military America, bank bailouts and the whole nine yards. They do not want folks like you being self-sufficient. It rankles them to no end. In fact, it is now illegal for you to build your own home out of stone if you so choose. It doesn't matter that homes built 200 years ago out of stone are still standing, we now work for the mighty building inspector who is but a tentacle attached to the corporate/military America you speak of. I agree fully with what you say. It is not about safety, or that your home might fall in and crush you, it is about control. We need to ouster ALL the politicians and start anew. <br /><br />I hear your neck of the woods is full of rattlesnakes. Do you ever see any of them? Boggeydoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-47658985374332733602010-02-17T15:28:16.000-05:002010-02-17T15:28:16.000-05:00boggey; click on that photo and it gets bigger. i ...boggey; click on that photo and it gets bigger. i tried to add an image of the tower but it was wrong format.craig dudleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-33711710611079572752010-02-17T15:25:52.000-05:002010-02-17T15:25:52.000-05:00boggeydosh;
<span>i opened a new page in par...boggeydosh;<br /><span>i opened a new page in part to answer your comment about stacking a few rocks around my house. i have done it for pay on and off for some years. the attached photo is one of the rock jobs i did in watauga county. in wva one of the last i did there was a tower twenty four tall and across. it has a gargoyle done by a stone carver who worked on the national cathedral. <br />i am in full support of a law requiring a living wage be paid. our government and its denizens work for corporate and military america. follow the money and looks who gets congressional support, like recently when they bailed out their banker friends at our expense. <br />there are few like greyson, kucinich and paul, for example, who try to honor and work for, the average american. <br />we have the imigration problem we do because those in power benefit from it. we don't stop it and only run our mouths. the last time the public took to the streets in a large enough size to stop something was vietnam and that took forever. <br />our government pays monsanto and their working farmers something called agriculture supports. that made our corn cheap enough to put the mexican farmers out of business so they came here. <br />they found work here because those in power benefited from cheaper labor. also because they worked. i did a rock job for a landscaper in watauga county who hired mexicans because they worked and were reliable. i asked him why he didn't hire locals and he said because they were unreliable when they even applied and were hired. dirty, hard landscapping work. now, i ain't saying thats true of all locals anywhere and there are those who would fill his job description but where were those when he needed employees? i been one of those locals who would have worked if it were available.</span>craig dudleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-84145171480999649972010-02-17T14:25:28.000-05:002010-02-17T14:25:28.000-05:00Yes, Craig. Poverty is a great incentive to work -...Yes, Craig. Poverty is a great incentive to work - for ALL people so inclined.BikerBardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-19196532450530149462010-02-17T13:43:58.000-05:002010-02-17T13:43:58.000-05:00boggey; i see how this reply thing works, i think....boggey; i see how this reply thing works, i think.<br />the original mexicans are called indios, which is mexican for indians, like mayans, aztecs and such. so native mexicans works as well as native americans, though six hundred years ago i doubt they would have made as much of imaginary lines as we do.<br />i don't condone illegal activities, if the laws are "fair and balanced". notice how i slipped that fox crap in there?<br />we have illegals because of two major causes; the first is nafta and you may remember what ross said about nafta, only he forgot it would work both ways.<br />for example because of nafta the mexicans who used to make a living farming corn are out of business because monsanto can sell their poison in mexico cheaper than those who live there and used to sell corn.<br />another easy to find example would be a well known chicken factory in our area that was busted a year or so ago because of their illegal employee census. the corporations that prosper from such activities do so with a wink and a nod from "our leaders" who also prosper from such reduced payroll costs.craig dudleynoreply@blogger.com