tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post323591226485402843..comments2024-03-22T13:06:27.366-05:00Comments on WataugaWatch: The GOP’s Contemplated Voter I.D. Law Would Violate the NC ConstitutionJ.W. Williamsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17694324792688711136noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-45290599391294203172011-02-28T15:21:00.771-05:002011-02-28T15:21:00.771-05:00You all are skirting around the real reason this b...You all are skirting around the real reason this bill exists. There are millions of illegal immigrants who do not pay taxes and should not have a say in any election. Yet you cannot pretend that political parties don't pay illlegals to vote a certain way and send them in van-fulls to add numbers to the poll. It's ridiculous. Even if they are not payed off they will most likely vote for whoever will give them free healthcare and government freebies. Because you don't want to sound racist you reach for obscure numbers of people that may be effected such as "elderly" or "disabled". I'm a college student and I've never had any problems voting so don't even pretend that us college students are in danger. We're smart. We'll figure it out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-5076498123441479202011-02-24T08:05:29.542-05:002011-02-24T08:05:29.542-05:00yes and voter fraud is SUCH a problem, NOT, this...yes and voter fraud is SUCH a problem, NOT, this is merely another attempt to create difficulties for voters that tend to vote democratic. PERIOD nothing more,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-85430809239377833322011-02-23T23:44:11.945-05:002011-02-23T23:44:11.945-05:00What part of "unconstitutional" don'...What part of "unconstitutional" don't teh baggers understand? Debate the merits of this misguided scheme all you want, but it's pretty clear that it violates the NC Constitution. Unless they want to pay for the state to contact every registered voter and give him or her a free photo ID (I'm guessing this would cost $100 million to pull off), then the plan is unacceptable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-25003062655612970852011-02-23T10:01:54.407-05:002011-02-23T10:01:54.407-05:00Oliver...You make more sense than anything else sa...Oliver...You make more sense than anything else said so far on this topic!<br /><br />The only problem is, most of the lefty leaning wackos don't want to prevent voter fraud!<br /><br />Under our current system, you can show up at the proper precinct on election day, identify yourself as a neighbor of yours that you know isn't going to vote, answer a very basic question or two (D.O.B., address) and then vote. You can do this as many times as you can find non-voting (or recently deceased) neighbors.voternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-43551771888245763842011-02-23T08:35:49.739-05:002011-02-23T08:35:49.739-05:00Because it is being discussed.Because it is being discussed.Olivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-63003108933610154292011-02-22T22:05:15.353-05:002011-02-22T22:05:15.353-05:00Oliver, because no one is going to give a voter an...Oliver, because no one is going to give a voter an ID when they register. Where'd you get that?<br /><br />But come to think of it, that's a damn good idea. Do that, and it's all fine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-32433037704043618462011-02-22T16:54:15.041-05:002011-02-22T16:54:15.041-05:00And how exactly does giving a person a photo I.D. ...And how exactly does giving a person a photo I.D. when he registers to vote and require that he show it when he votes disenfranchise anyone?Olivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-81598477343567363102011-02-22T14:57:52.552-05:002011-02-22T14:57:52.552-05:00"Disenfranchising Voters Is Wrong!"
htt..."Disenfranchising Voters Is Wrong!"<br /><br />http://www.democracy-nc.org/VoterIDStories.htmlHenerynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-59548040697071696792011-02-22T13:25:30.027-05:002011-02-22T13:25:30.027-05:00What is wrong with giving a person a voter registr...What is wrong with giving a person a voter registration card that has his picture on it when he registers to vote and requiring that he show it when he votes. It only takes a few minutes to go re-register. If it cuts down on fraud by people claiming something wrong, it is worth the inconvenience.Olivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-8612980503361728822011-02-22T11:22:50.950-05:002011-02-22T11:22:50.950-05:00The fact that you and others don't give a flyi...<i>The fact that you and others don't give a flying f&*k is very telling.</i> <br /><br />Meh, come back and complain when the students actually turn out to vote.<br /><br />Still, the point about this bill being unnecessary because they already show ID at registration is a good one. I could see ID laws in places like Ohio where people just show up and vote, but like Anonymous says above, NC's voter registration laws seem to be a good prophylactic against fraud all by themselves.Your friendly neighborhood Teahadistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-18919220953986400782011-02-22T11:09:11.207-05:002011-02-22T11:09:11.207-05:00Mike D.,
An ASU student may show a driver's li...Mike D.,<br />An ASU student may show a driver's license from Wake County to register to vote in Watauga. The Wake County license does not show a local Watauga County address, obviously. That Wake County driver's license, however, will be rejected when the legally registered ASU student goes to vote.<br /><br />An ASU student with a Watauga County driver's license who registered in 2010, say, but who moves to another apartment complex or another dorm before 2012, will also have a problem because the photo i.d. does not show the current address.<br /><br />This bill would obviously and particularly target young voters for those reasons. Not a small thing.<br /><br />The fact that you and others don't give a flying f&*k is very telling.Henerynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-35017036237929157102011-02-22T11:01:05.602-05:002011-02-22T11:01:05.602-05:00Amos,
If one must be able to prove identity to re...Amos,<br /><br />If one must be able to prove identity to <b>register</b> to vote, then what's the big deal about requiring the same to <b>cast</b> a vote?<br /><br />I am not trying to contradict the state constitution. I am just saying it doesn't seem like a big deal to me, and I would be delighted to show my ID when I vote.<br /><br />I don't see what all the fuss is about, unless, of course, one side relies on voter fraud, and this law would curb that fraud.<br /><br />If you have to show your ID to register to vote, then it should not be a problem to show it when you cast the ballot.Mike D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-83107291170869562692011-02-22T09:58:16.129-05:002011-02-22T09:58:16.129-05:00Mike, the NC State Constitution says that if a res...Mike, the NC State Constitution says that if a resident of NC wants to vote, s/he is entitled and cannot be required to pay money to exercise that vote. When a person requests to be registered, s/he is verified on the front end: has to show a photo ID, has to prove residency, and has to be vetted by the local Board of Elections. This is allowed under state constitution (required in fact). Why are we trying to refuse LEGALLY REGISTERED voters their right to vote when even the Constitution doesn't allow for it? One reason: "they" don't want specific people to vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-76688540123273783962011-02-22T03:25:55.964-05:002011-02-22T03:25:55.964-05:00J.W.,
'Stop and Identify' laws are about ...J.W.,<br /><br />'Stop and Identify' laws are about as close as we get, as a country, to forcing people to prove that they are who they are on command.<br /><br />Well, ok, that's not entirely true. We have to be able to prove our identities if we want to drive... and fish... and drink and smoke... and get a job... and cash a check... and buy a house... and rent a car... and stay at a hotel... and buy a gun... and apply for a credit card...<br /><br />Come to think of it, we need to be able to prove who we are all the time. <br /><br />I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying it is.Mike D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6194583.post-23969882091659711462011-02-21T19:20:32.228-05:002011-02-21T19:20:32.228-05:00good research!
It's not Jim Crow any longer, ...good research!<br /><br />It's not Jim Crow any longer, it's Art Crow; Art Pope that is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com